Fixing a Buggy Wheel to Git ‘er Done – The Cowboy Way | Engels Coach Shop

Fixing a Buggy Wheel to Git ‘er Done – The Cowboy Way | Engels Coach Shop


Welcome back once again as we continue
on in our pile wheels that we need to fix. Last week we did a rotted out wheel
that had been left outside way too many years. This week we have a wheel to fix
that went through a wreck we started to show you that last week. This is a wheel
that we were working on, so I’m gonna go ahead and get this wheel taken apart
we’ll get into this and then part way through I’m going to stop and kind of
address a little topic that shows up. So here we go. Well, you remember a while back, when I
turned a new hub core for a sarven flange? Remember just how I fitted those
flanges to the core? Well, this is what I looked for. So, this is the sarven flange style. You remember in that video, I’m looking for contact at this shoulder, right here, to this shoulder on the core and then at this point here, on the
outside end of this flange, is where I want contact. This part, in between, there’s an open cavity there.. There isn’t contact contact with the flange. And the same thing goes with the back end. This part of the flange has contact here. This part of the flange has contact here, but this cavity between the two is an open
cavity and when you drill a hole straight through, and this part of the
flange you’re drilling right through this open cavity, and you put a grease
zerk here, well this whole cavity begins to fill up with grease. Well this boxing is pressed in. There’s two points of contact also. The point of contact on the bell, and then it is, there’s fairly decent contact
here where the fins are, but where the spokes come in, there’s an open cavity
and then there’s contact for the last inch inch and a quarter on the small end
of the boxing. Well this inside is opened up, and there’s a cavity there, so that when the spokes come in to the core, that they don’t come in and hammer on this boxing and could possibly break the boxing. So this is left open on purpose. Well, when this boxing is bored straight through it allows this cavity here also
to fill up with grease Well, this grease begins to permeate this whole inside
core as you saw on this wheel, how full of grease it was? Well, when this becomes permeated it loosens the bond on this Well, when this becomes permeated, it loosens the bond on this boxing and it loosens the bond on the
flanges. Well the flanges stay intact because they’re riveted, but did you notice on this hub, when I took it apart? There was no boxing. It was so full of grease, permeated between the boxing and the hub core that it allowed this boxing to
back out. so that boxing was not in this So that boxing was not in this hub. It’s still on the axle of that buggy. So the question kind of remains as you
watch this, probably thinking, Why in the world that I do,
leaving that hub, in all those different pieces in that hub core? Well, the main reason is, actually there’s two kind of reasons. One is my assessment of the customer that owns this buggy wheel, and the fact that there
was no boxing. See this boxing is already see, this boxing is already predrilled, so when this owner comes, if
he calls ahead of time, he hasn’t come yet to pick up this wheel, I’m gonna make
sure that he goes to his axle and finds that boxing. I don’t think he knows that
it’s still there yet, so I can build this wheel, put that hub core back in those flanges like you watched me do, and I can take this boxing and I can rotate
it 90 degrees and put those fins into fresh wood in that core. That inside core is still machined to fit this boxing and it will take a tight fit. Now, where this
has already been drilled for that hole for the grease fitting, it’s going to be
90 degrees off, which is actually a good which is actually a good thing, because I’m going to talk to him
about this. Get rid of those grease fittings. It’s not that difficult to jack
up the wheel, slide it out, put your grease on put it back in. This grease
zerk fitting idea really is not the best idea. As I just explained, your filling
areas in that hub that should not be that should not be filled with grease. So I mentioned that I took into account the, what I assess to be what I assess to be the character of the customer. He is what I would say is, an old-school cowboy type of guy. Now a number of years ago, back in
the 90s we ranched for a while and leased a place of a rancher who had died,
and we leased it from his sister, and as I got to know that place, I got to know the original owner of that ranch. He was an old-school old-time cowboy type of guy. You’ve heard the phrase, it’s
it’s the cowboy way? Well this place was Well, this place was put together the cowboy way. Hinges were made out of scrap wagon tires and bent old railroad ties and whatever could be
conjured up. He made this place hold together. He made do with what he had and I respected that, and admired him for it. Well, the gentleman is of that same school. He’s an old-school, old-time,
cowboy type of guy, who would say, in my estimation, doesn’t have to be fancy,
it’s gotta to work, just get er done. And so, that’s what I assess this hub to be
in that category. It wasn’t broken apart, where there were pieces missing.
There weren’t big gaping holes. When I put it back together with glue and put
the flanges on it they were fairly snug. I added glue to the outside of the hub
core to take up any kind of slack between the hub core and the flanges and
then once the spokes are in, I’ll put some bolts in temporarily to hold it in place so I put the rivets in, but this hub core will work. It’ll get er done. And when we put that boxing back in correctly and I talked to them about
these grease jerks, This wheel will certainly work. It doesn’t have to be all about
thrills and frills. It has to work. So, we’ll just get her done. Well, from here I’m going to go ahead and just finish out the process of building this wheel
and we’ll get her put together and it’ll work. Well, two takeaways from this video is
one, don’t mess with these new modern grease zerks and just drilling holes and
thinking it’s going to work. Just grease them the way they’re supposed to. And secondly, not everything has to be brand new nd ideal. Sometimes you just need to get er done. Thanks for watchng! you

100 thoughts on “Fixing a Buggy Wheel to Git ‘er Done – The Cowboy Way | Engels Coach Shop

  1. Will the person who put that mysterious ring in the Hub please explain yourself! IMAGINE!

  2. I live in London and never been near a wagon BUT now watch all your vids. Your workmanship is top rate. The Borax wagon was epic. Sorry to be personal and feel free to ignore this question. Do you have any hobbies away from your work.You are such a good craftsman this normally flows to other stuff.

  3. It's been said many times "perfection, always gets in the way of good enough."

  4. He wiped the butter knife off good as new!

  5. My dad was never a cowboy but he was great at working with what he had kudos to you I'm sure if he could have seen this he would have appreciated it thank you

  6. Sir; you place your words to construction of wheel perfectly and you having a good understanding of your customers with A1 workmanship. well done as people of today seem to not understand this concept thus if not their way will not fix it when there is many ways for a good outcome. love your work ethics.

  7. Hurt me to see you use a wood chisel for a scraper.

  8. Glad you explained the re-use of the hub. Looks like a bunch of us thought that was crazy. But you're right – if it works and it ain't for show, then why not? Most of us have made do in one way or another at times, or as a rule for some, as you said. Great video and good points made. Life lessons taught here!

  9. Do you make your own spokes or are they made to a common set of measurements , for a given type / size of wheel ? In the case of the hub do you have aged wood blanks stock piled when needed for repair or new wheels , or that is not an important need ?

  10. On the other side of the pond anything cowboy is a by-word for shoddiness. I don't really get why you would use a hub like that again. Surely the grease would have gone well into the wood, and the glue joint will not hold on its' own? Always enjoy watching your work.

  11. I am a carpenter by trade and I’m also fortunate that I get to do things most people don’t do anymore! I get to repair old things and reproduce new old stuff with new and old ways your videos or very thorough and interesting at the same time! Leads me to believe that if I had to repair a wheel I could using your techniques thanks for making it a learning experience

  12. What a great advertisement for Titebond 3. I’ve got to know. When you got started in this trade how many tires did you have to set before you stopped getting accidentally burned? Or are those incidents edited out of the videos? Thanks for posting and I’ll still be watch’n.

  13. Love your videos, skill, and practicality. Thank you for sharing. Enjoy them immensely.

  14. Looking cowboy-good!

  15. It always fits perfectly on the test fit but not after you apply glue!!

  16. What you call "Cowboy", in most of Kentucky I'd call "Hillbilly". Use what you got and just get 'er done! I'm a Hillbilly and proud of it. Haha! Thanks for your commentary on why you reused the broken up hub. Your rationale made perfect sense to me.

  17. I enjoy watching your videos more than any other You Tuber that I seen, thank for sharing your work with us. And please don't stop making them!

  18. Old farmer's mantra: Use it up, wear it out, make it do, or do without.

  19. Buggy wheels and wagon wheels. Watching on TV I always sort of thought it would be obvious what to do. Not so.

  20. wheel looks great

  21. Hi Dave, thanks for another interesting video, and explanation of the why's and wherefores of how you assess a job , and bring it to a satisfactory condition, I'm sure the old cowboy will be pleased at the result, when you took it off the stand and bounced it on the floor it sounded real tight, as I knew it would,lol. Nice view on the snow fall outside your place, stay warm dave, looking forward to the next one . Best wishes to you and your's, Stuart.uk.

  22. nice work

  23. Those zerk fittings may have worked better had they been longer to reach the correct depth inside the hub area however, there is no real way to beat the manual method by pulling the wheel off of the axle. Besides, that gives an opportunity to inspect for other issues that may arise. Based on my perception, that hub didn't see any grease for a long while regardless of the zerk. I approve of this repair type too. There's 3 other wheels that are likely just as old and in similar condition so this fix will out last the other three likely. Very interesting to see how small alterations can correct a problem such as the split fellows @ the spoke. I wonder if those biscuits would suffice any better than the rivet. Hopefully the boxing left on the axle isn't damaged. What is amazing here overall is, most folks would have easily decided the entire wheel was junk….not so with Dave on the job.
    P.S. Another saying from the western past "fix it with bailing wire"

  24. The issue with "Get 'er done" is having to know what is OK and what isn't. I would have guessed that the stress on the hub would be too much for the broken wood but you knew from experience that it won't be.

  25. It's the loss of the 'make do and mend' attitude that is partly responsible for the state the world is in now. If more folk repaired what they could instead of always buying new there would be a lot less in landfill sites. Thanks for reminding us of this important life lesson!

  26. Most farmers are like most ranchers if something breaks. They just want it fix and don't care what it looks like because it going to get worked.

  27. Fine Cowboy Work ! I love the ringing sound the anvil makes when you flatten those two rim rivets at the spoke. ONE question – I did not notice any wheel weights for balancing … did you forget them ?

  28. WHAT CAN I SAY ABOUT YOU .. YOU HAVE THOUGHT US SO MUCH OF THE PAST AND REBUILDING FROM SCRATCH A NEW GENERATION ..KEEP ON MAKING WAVES ..A FRIEND..

  29. My grandmother was from that cowboy school – I learned to keep 14 horses safe, well fed and with good vet care on a shoestring.

  30. Never ceases to amaze me people always bring me jobs to fix and they never bother to clean them first. Likewise for you.

  31. Goodness, how do you manage to keep warm in your workshop in weather like that, do you have a log burner?

    As usual, yet another great and educational video, us viewers of yours have so much to thank you for.

  32. As always, a treat – thanks for your content.

  33. When you are going to your shop in the morning do you ever wanted to build something just for you

  34. Excellent repair techniques. Thanks.

  35. 🇨🇴👍🏻

  36. Dave's black cravat is quite dashing.

  37. Well done! 👍
    Thanks for the video.

  38. Then let us see one

  39. Have you ever tried to heat up a hub to get the grease out?

  40. What..? Pragmatic repairs governed by means..? How PREPOSTEROUS…LOL! All is well that ends well….

  41. Are rivets better on the hub over bolts, and why?

  42. GREAT VIDEO !!!

  43. Interesting to see a steel hammer used on wood instead of a rawhide or wooden mallet.

  44. Hi love your work I’m from Australia and would like to know if those rivet set are made or brought

  45. 🙂👍gitter dun

  46. It's my understanding that God gave someone the brains to create duct tape, wire ties and bailing wire so we could get er done as quick as possible. Another great learning experiance, thanks Dave.

  47. I'm a retired carpenter that learned a lot of things people aren't willing to pay for these days. I watch alot of videos on how to do things. Yours are my favourites.

  48. I ordered the book, the scarf and the marking pen. Soon as they get here I'm going to start on a Conestoga wagon.

  49. mmm peanut butter

  50. My father grew up to the depression era and he told me about when he was a child back in Powers, Lake, North Dakota. He told me one of the ways he made money to be able to go to a movie on Saturday was to go around to all of the stores And collect what he called Excelsior I don't know if you're familiar with it, but if you aren't it's wood shavings used to pack items in wooden boxes for shipping. He would take all this material. He gathered during the week to the local blacksmith to sell to him. To use as fuel to heat the the tire before sweating it onto the wooden rim. He got something like $0.35 which was enough to see the movie and get a popcorn and a soda.

  51. Wife calls from the other room: "Have you seen the 8th table knife anywhere?"

    Him: "Ah, dangit."

  52. It ain’t got to be pretty to work.

  53. somedays done is beautiful….!

  54. Does it ever bother you or make you mad when you find something like that grease zerk in a job you have to fix? The not-knowing or not-understanding that some people have regarding the why's and why-not's, contributing to the failure?
    I understand not everyone can know everything, but sometimes the "give-it-a-go" attitude contributes more to a problem than the ignorance does.

  55. People would bring broken stuff to my grandfather and he would say when i asked “ it parts for my projects” . I saw him build a nut cracker from an oil broken chainsaw motor. We cracked pecans for a week with it and sold them. We drove to the thrift store and bought a chainsaw that ran. He gave me the rest of the money. It took me years to figure out the life lessons my grandfather handed me on a work bench (silver plater). thanks for sharing.

  56. Does anyone still make Sarven hubs new? And is there a modernised version with roller bearings and grease seals? Great videos. 👍

  57. I hope Diane knows you use the butter knife to clean out the hubs because i would like to see another video in Australia I don't new videos till Sunday night keep up the excellent work

  58. Hi Dave, thanks for the video – Just wanted to ask, have the chandeliers you made been hung? If possible, it would be nice to see a picture of them in location.

  59. You are Awsome. Great great work! God bless

  60. Brilliant, thank you.

  61. Mmmm. Nutella @0:56

    🤢🤮

  62. Sometimes I hold off on watching your latest release until I need my spirit uplifted. Thank you for what you're doinig. Peace.

  63. The most important tooling you have and may agree is your jigs and clamps to make fixes like this much easier. Love your workmanship.

    One day soon would like to build a model version of a Cobb and Co/ Wells Fargo coach. I know even at this point of time there would be a pile of jigs that have to be made and maybe different tools made or sourced that would way out the mount of construction and materials of the coach. That does sit me back a bit in my seat but still have the determination to go forwards. I would only make one and then all these jigs and fixtures will sit around, never to be used again.
    Sourcing good quality scaled drawings of a the coach is a concern and wonder do you know I could find them? I live in Australia 🇦🇺 yeah that’s right, down under and wonder if you may be of help to connect me to these suppliers. Maybe your subscribers maybe of help. Thanks

  64. Understanding and respecting the customer. Rare these days.

  65. Kind of like fixing your shoe.. Just git er done.

  66. Nicely done! That wheel will probably last another hundred years.

  67. 24:17 Sweet music from that anvil.

  68. Buenas noches Sr EngelsCoachShop Bravisimo !!!! por su trabajo pero queria hacerle a usted una pregunta por favor, es la siguiente…. Como se llama la herramienta cuando mide la circuferencia interior que es redonda con una flecha ? muchas gracias.

  69. Did I see one of the wife’s table knives.

  70. 2 quick questions sir. Is the wood you glued up strong enough to support a fully loaded buggy without shifting? I'm assuming the hub assembly compresses it together. Also, could you please mention your hardware suppliers? l am looking for old looking black square head bolts and screws. Thanks for the videos.

  71. Good evening Mr. EngelsCoachShop Bravisimo !!!! For your work but I wanted to ask you a question please, is this … What is the name of the tool when measuring the inner circle that is round with an arrow? Thanks a lot.

  72. gracias por su ayuda.

  73. Certainly enjoy watching you do your magic. However, not familiar with anything even remotely associated with such wheels, how long does such a wheel usually last? Thumbs Up for sure…

  74. a true craftsman, great to see how these projects should be done

  75. Appreciated the outside scene. I miss the snow since I moved to North Carolina. Yes, I hated shoveling it but it sure is pretty.

  76. Amazing work friend

  77. I would have been very tempted to just get out a heat gun and melt that grease right out of there.

  78. I haven't seen any yet in your videos, but I'm wondering whether later wagon hubs ever introduced roller or ball bearings?

  79. I very much enjoy your videos. Wish I could sit in your shop and watch you every day. If I was 20 I would let you teach me. But I'm 60 and crippled, and at times have trouble holding a fork. Lol. I enjoyed working with wood all my life. And was pretty good at it. Always told myself, God is in the details. I see that in your work too.

  80. excusez moi de m excusé ,mais ça vas faire mal

  81. I fear this job is going to come back to haunt you and spoil your reputation. I would not have taken this job.

  82. My father taught me at a young age to NOT do work for Farmers or Cowboys. Bc they are cheap asses, and will NOT want to pay for your quality work!! Super funny to see a man at the other side of the nation state the exact same thing!!

  83. How do you keep the wheels running true? If a wheel is warped how do you true it back up?

  84. "Wheel get into it!" What type of wood is that hub liner? Fantastic videos! Thanks!

  85. Old school cowboy type of guy pretty much summed up my father in-law. He grew up ranching and farming during the depression. My mother in-law said he got to go to school long enough to go in the front door and make his way out the back door. A piece of bailing wire or twine a chunk of a board or a scrap of leather or steel was almost as good as money in the bank. He understood stuff about mechanical things they can't even teach in college.

  86. as i watch these great vids i look down at the bottom of my screen and hateto see that red dot getting closer and closer to the end of its trip to the other side of the screen indicating video over video over, dam!!!

  87. there arent many procedures where you get to set down is there Mr Dave i bet so you should take advantage of a good sit down when you can,,standing on that ole hard floor everyday kinda wears a guy out a little at a time and he dont notice it kinda creeps up on you i would think once again good work great vides and god bless you sir

  88. Very neat to watch this process, i definitely learned something today!

  89. He got a good deal on left hand gloves?

  90. Why don't you protect (stain or seal) the spokes before you install them into the hub? He said without any connotations.

  91. 0:55 Put that on a sammich.

  92. Well sir, looks like you broke down and bought a new planer. Looks good!

  93. Who knew the Philosophy of the Wheel was the Philosophy of Life?
    Growing up in MT too, I learned it young. It's an "Insider's Advantage" too few boys get these days.

  94. I would have understood the grease fitting, if it was a conical roller bearing retrofit. But yeah, that's not going to work with that old hub without putting hydraulic pressure on all the iron and wood pieces.

  95. Dave what was the cleaner you used to clean off the hub and wood? Kerosene?

  96. Titebond is no joke that metal will give before the glue

  97. It is such a pleasure to watch you work, you have a skill that unless we get some youngsters interested in it, we will lose it forever. Thank you for this took me back a looonnngg time ago when I was a little racket watching my old grandad working.

  98. All the high speed rivet peening and hammering always gets me thinking "how does one learn to hammer that fast" 😉

  99. This was refreshing to watch-I appreciate your craftsmanship Sir.
    I was fortunate to know and was able to spend time with Harley Chandler before his death-I learned a lot of "simple" lessons off of him. I see that you and he have similar ideology which is quite refreshing.. Thank you for these videos-I find them very inspiring and look forward to being in my own shop this weekend.

  100. Respect to the man who can do it right.
    Great respect to the man who can do it "the other way"!

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